JCC FlameGuard Downlights – End of an Era
JCC FlameGuard downlights arrived onto the lighting scene in 2014. The first in the series to enter the marketplace was the FGLED6, followed by the FGLED3, then the FGLED10. This great range of LED downlights had it all.
[click here to view the original FlameGuard brochure]
Backed with a confidence inspiring 10 year warranty for domestic use and 5 years for commercial use. They were fire rated, insulation coverable, IP65 rated and dimmable. They were incredibly popular and manufactured from reputable lighting manufacturer JCC Lighting.
As LED technology advances and times change, sadly the FlameGuard series time is up. JCC Lighting announced that the entire range is being discontinued, with the phase out starting in April 2018. The main reason behind this calculated decision is the JCC V50.
The JCC V50 has all of the features of the FlameGuard series, with one other standout feature; it has two colour temperatures. Known as a CCT (correlated colour temperature) adjustable downlight, the V50 has a small dip switch located behind the bezel that allows you to switch between warm white 3000K and cool white 4000K. Usually this type of downlight costs more, but JCC have found a way to offer one downlight that does almost everything.
The JCC V50 gives consumers the opportunity to choose the colour temperature when it’s fitted, change it when they want to and back again whenever they want. For stockists like us, we only need to keep one downlight on the shelf along with the matching bezels.
FGLED3
This was a 35W halogen equivalent, with a lumen output of 320-380 lumens. There was an old version and a newer version of this product. The original older version wasn’t dimmable and looked like this:
The newer version was dimmable and looked like this:
The FGLED3 was also available in an adjustable.
SKUs
Warm White 3000K
- JC94301BN - Brushed Nickel
- JC94301CH - Polished Chrome
- JC94301WH - White
Cool White 4000K
- JC94302BN - Brushed Nickel
- JC94302CH - Polished Chrome
- JC94302WH - White
FGLED6
This was the most popular of the Flame Guard series. A 50W halogen alternative with a lumen output of 450-500 lumens. It was available in dimmable and non-dimmable versions and in fixed and adjustable.
The FGLED6 was our highest rated downlight in terms of customer reviews with over 100 positive reviews.
SKUS
Fixed Dimmable
- JC94472BN - Brushed Nickel 3000K
- JC94472CH - Polished Chrome 3000K
- JC94472WH - White 3000K
- JC94473BN - Brushed Nickel 4000K
- JC94473CH - Polished Chrome 4000K
- JC94473WH - White 4000K
Fixed Non Dimmable
- JC94474BN - Brushed Nickel 3000K
- JC94474CH - Polished Chrome 3000K
- JC94474WH - White 3000K
- JC94475BN - Brushed Nickel 4000K
- JC94475CH - Polished Chrome 4000K
- JC94475WH - White 4000K
FGLED10
With a brighter light output of 750-800 lumens, the FGLED10 also had a wider 60 degree beam output. This combination of brightness and beam spread enabled users to install fewer downlights as the wider beam spreads more light out further and consistently.
SKUS
Warm White 3000K
- JC94503BN - Brushed Nickel
- JC94503CH - Polished Chrome
- JC94503WH - White
Cool White 4000K
- JC94501BN - Brushed Nickel
- JC94501CH - Polished Chrome
- JC94501WH - White
Warranty Replacements
If you’ve ordered a FlameGuard downlight that has failed and needs replacing, your first port of call would be to try get a replacement. These downlights were covered by extensive guarantee periods of 10 years for domestic and 5 years for commercial use. If the downlights have failed after 2 years you need to contact JCC directly to get a warranty replacement. Click here to view the JCC warranty page.
JCC V50
This has all of the best bits of the FlameGuard series and more. If you’re looking for a new LED downlight, for a new installation, the V50 is the ideal choice. With its bright lumen output of 600-650 lumens, the only downside it that it can be too bright for some applications. Smaller rooms for example often only need a 35W equivalent while the V50 is a 50W+ equivalent.
One of the other downsides is that the guarantee period of the V50 is only 3 years. This is also something that continues to happen in the LED lighting world. The battle of the price conscious versus guarantees and life expectancy, price won the battle.
It's also supplied with a wiring connector as standard, wiring connectors have become a popular feature for LED downlights since the launch of the FGLED series.
The dimensions of the V50 are:
- Cut out: 70mm
- Diameter: 84mm
- Height / depth: 60.5mm (can fit in ceiling voids of 48mm)
- Maximum ceiling thickness: 30mm
The FGLED6 had a cut out size of 71 to 80mm, depending on the ceiling type it was being installed in, with 71 to 73mm for 30 minute ceilings and 76 to 80mm for 60 & 90 minute ceilings.
Comparison Table
Series | Wattage | Lumens | Hole Cut Out Size | Guarantee | Average Price (inc. VAT) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
FGLED3 | 4.8W (with driver) | 320-380 lumens | 72-81mm | 10 years | £12.67 |
FGLED6 | 7.2W (with driver) | 450-500 lumens | 71-80mm | 10 years | £18.54 |
FGLED10 | 12.4W (with driver) | 750-800 lumens | 72-81mm | 10 years | £22.03 |
V50 | 7.5W (with driver) | 600-650 lumens | 70mm | 5 years | £14.62 |
Farewell FlameGuard downlights, you’ve served us well but times are changing. One thing for sure, is that the JCC V50 is certainly here to stay.
Or go for the newer version which would be the V50 from JCC:
https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/jcc-v50-cct-switchable-fire-rated-led-downlight.html
Or try another brand, like the Aurora E8 for a porch would be reasonably priced.
JCC Lighting deal direct with warranty issues after 2 years.
If you complete this form and contact them:
https://www.jcc.co.uk/en_GB/about/warranty/warranty-claim-form
They would usually issue a replacement or supply the latest model.
Only four of these work.
I did not test them before installing them, but suppose that they were duds.
I purchased them from my local wholesaler about four years ago, and they have been kept in the house ever since purchase.
I just didn't get round to fitting them.
I expect that I can find the receipt, given time.
In fact, I think that it is in the box that they came in.
These are probably no longer made.
Will I have to take out all 8 and replace them with V50's or can I just take out the 4, and replace just the four with v 50's.
I might be better to cut my losses, and opt for a better make. I have dimmer switches, but it is a big room, and the 40 degree 7w lamps aren't that bright. So no point in fitting these dimmer switches, unless I put in higher lumen lamps.
I have a number of the JC94472 u its in my kitchen and 3x lights are now dead. Looks like these have been discontinued and i have no documentation to indicate when they were installed.
What can the individual units be replaced with rather than the whole lot?
Thanks
Phil
The JC94472 was the dimmable version of the FGLED6 series. The cut out size was 71-80mm depending on the ceiling thickness. The new model is the JCC V50 which has a hole cut out size of 70mm. A hole concealer ring is also available which takes the hole size from 72-105mm.
JCC V50
https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/jcc-v50-cct-switchable-fire-rated-led-downlight.html
https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/jcc-jc1005-v50-standard-concealer-ring.html
It comes with a colour temperature switch, so you get 3000K & 4000K in 1 and its dimmable as standard.
Thanks,
Brian
The new model is the JCC V50:
https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/jcc-v50-cct-switchable-fire-rated-led-downlight.html
This has a cut out size of 70mm and will fit inside your existing hole.
You could just replace 1 and see if you notice much of a difference, or replace them all.
I have 5 non-dimmable JCC downlighters in my bathroom, fitted in 2015. One is now failing – not a bad record after 7 years! What is the best replacement please? The room is quite small and the light provided by the above 5 is sufficient. Thank you.
https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/jcc-v50-cct-switchable-fire-rated-led-downlight.html
This is quite bright at 600-650 lumens and has a wide beam angle of 60 degrees. It is dimmable as standard, so you can dim it, if its too bright.
We also have the Aurora CX7 on offer, which could be considered:
https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/aurora-colour-switchable-led-fixed-fire-rated-downlights.html
The replacement that I require must have the same as this to cover the damage to the ceiling made by the spring clips. Any advice please?
I understand these have been discontinued now.
What would be the best replacements to use that would slot directly in their place?
Also, would it be best to replace just these 2 or replace all 8 now?
Your advice would be appreciated.
https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/jcc-v50-cct-switchable-fire-rated-led-downlight.html
The cut out size of the FGLED10 was 71-80mm
The V50 is 70mm Cut out: 70mm with an 84mm diameter
We had our house rewired in Nov 2013 - I have the certificate - and they installed three downlight outside on an overhang. One has now stopped working. Will this be covered by the 10 year guarantee? It was a JC94172 (batch no7943 5012). I understand these were discontinued a few years ago. Thanks for any advice.
Any warranty period over 2 years is covered directly with JCC Lighting: https://www.jcc.co.uk/en_GB/about/warranty
You would have had to register them though.
They would most likely recommend the latest model, which is the V50:
https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/jcc-v50-cct-switchable-fire-rated-led-downlight.html
we have just moved in to a new house (8yrs old) One of the down lights in the hallway has died. The product code is JC9494175. 4000k CW40 Beam non dimmable. Although the Hall
has only 4 the rest of the house has a further 32 installed.
Please can you advise:
Is this a JCC down light and is it now discontinued.
Not having the original purchase receipt can we still claim under JCC warranty.
What is the alternative replacement and will they match.
Many thanks
Andy
Those downlights are quite old now, so it might be void of the warranty period which was 10 years.
You'd either need to choose a new model which is the V50:
https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/jcc-v50-cct-switchable-fire-rated-led-downlight.html
Or contact JCC who handle warranty replacements: https://www.jcc.co.uk/en_GB/about/warranty
https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/jcc-v50-cct-switchable-fire-rated-led-downlight.html
https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/jcc-v50-cct-switchable-fire-rated-led-downlight.html
We bought a house fewmonths back. The whole house has FGLED6 JC94473 downlights was fixed. 3 of them are not working now.
From where we get replacement. If discontinued then which one is the closest option.
https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/jcc-v50-cct-switchable-fire-rated-led-downlight.html
Can I replace just the 2 with the new version.
Thanks
https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/jcc-x50-fire-rated-multi-wattage-cct-downlights.html
Or you could use the new X50. Just measure your hole cut out size as it was variable with the older JCC models. The X50 is 68-70mm and it has a wattage switch, so you can switch it to the lower output setting of 3.5W.